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Embedding AI at Scale: Heineken’s Playbook with Tony Costella

Podcast episode30 Oct 2025

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In this Talking AI episode, host Ray Poynter sits down with Tony Costella, Heineken’s Global Commerce AI & Performance Transformation Director, to share a grounded, inside-the-business view of AI transformation. Drawing on a career rooted in insights, Tony explains why this shift isn’t a ‘tools’ story but a people-first change program, captured neatly in the 10/20/70 model: roughly 10% technology, 20% data, and 70% people and process. Listeners will hear how Heineken is:

  • Turning knowledge management into a productivity engine, using GenAI to surface value from tens of thousands of insight documents and embed learnings into day-to-day work.

  • Favoring partnerships over proprietary black boxes, co-building interoperable solutions that sit inside an agentic, end-to-end ecosystem rather than stand-alone apps.

  • Rewiring operating models, bringing commercial teams and IT together so technology, data, and workflow design move in lockstep.

  • Measuring value, not demos, prioritizing solutions that deliver tangible performance improvements over ‘snake oil’ promises.

Tony also lays out what this means for agencies and research partners: the economics shift from a few pricey tests to hundreds of lightweight, continuous iterations. That demands new commercial models (think usage- or token-based), deeper domain expertise, distinctive data, and seamless interoperability. For client-side leaders, his advice is direct: start now, learn by doing, safely, and build a clear strategy that amplifies your company’s unique DNA instead of drifting into a sea of sameness.

About the guest: Tony Costella leads Global Commerce AI and Performance Transformation at Heineken, steering the integration of AI-powered insight across sales, marketing, and broader commercial operations. With a long background in insights, he focuses on practical adoption, change management, and measurable performance gains.

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